If it's not off-track, I'd like to ask a question from a slightly different side of "See the person": I'm curious as to what leads people to seek treatment? Does there have to be a rock-bottom moment? In my case, the person I love doesn't seem to see herself or the harm that happens in so many forms of relationships in her life; whenever a 'breakthrough' seems close, there is such self-loathing that she loses sight of the person she is (and loses hope); but always very quickly then switches to attack mode (declaring there is no problem).